Showing posts with label Channel Trucks. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Channel Trucks. Show all posts

Monday, 26 July 2010

Truck resistance through shocks/dampas


Most modern truck systems allow a degree of adjustment to either tighten or loosen them.  Usually this is done according to whether you'd prefer to have a board that is light to steer with the ability to change direction quickly, but with a possibility of speed wobbles at higher speed, or a rigid set-up that has stability at speed but turns far less.  I would guess that most people settle on a compromise depending on how fast they are likely to go and how well they deal with the wobbles.


Lets take the good old MBS Matrix truck* (later proceeded by the 'Lite' version and then earlier this year by the 'Pro' version).  The Matrix had a huge amount of variability on ways you could adjust the truck tension as detailed earlier here.  For those people who have forgotten, or can't be arsed to click the link the official options are to: (from brutal to subtle)
a) To move the springs/shocks from inner to outer position to increase tension.
b) To insert shocks, or change them from yellow to orange to red shocks for increased tension.
c) To turn the adjustment screw clockwise to pre-compress the eggs and thus increase tension.

Remolitions Smilie reminds us that MBS 'forgot to mention you kinda have put a bit of compression on the springs. Other wise your eggs are just going to rattle around doing nothing :-)'.  Or worse than nothing, they can fall out.

Anyway, options 'a' to 'c' are just the official options.  A popular alternative is to switch the MBS egg shocks for Trampa Dampas.  The first advantage of this is the additional range of dampas:

Yellow: 65 shore (the shore being a measurement of hardness of a material)
Green: 75 shore
Red: 80 shore
Blue: 85 shore
White: 90 shore

A consequence of using dampas over shocks is that with the dampas being slightly longer, that it is not necessary to crank the springs down as far before the dampa becomes compressed.  A repercussion of this being that the springs have less compression when turning starts to take place and so in theory the springs should a) last longer, and b) have less influence on the turning characteristic.

If turning can be improved and a consequence of this is that the springs are really only there to 'hold the springs in', is it worth removing the springs altogether?

The makers of the 'West Coast ultra-light springless kit' certainly think so.  Developed by Leon Dove it appears to hold the egg shock in place using a long screw, and then uses a longer bolt so that the truck suitably compresses the shock.  Those thinking of purchasing a system should bear in mind that only orange and red egg shocks are recommended (dampas bend apparently), and that relatively new top hangers are required so that everything lines up nicely.  However, fans of the system rave about fantastic progressive turning and no speed wobbles!
Some words from Leon himself can be found on Remolitions pages here with EvilC's review here and a few more pictures by Mikael here from the popular pages of Surfing Dirt.

But that's not all; there is the option to have different shocks or dampas in the front and rear trucks with a popular option to have stiffer ones in the front to aid stability at speed, with less stiffness to the rear to aid turning.  Of course, other variations exist as well as more complicated mathematics if you start to take into account truck angle and the suchlike.  I looked at it once in the hope of coming up with a model to allow people to select the various options and get an idea of how their set-up would compare to others.  However, the maths got in the way and nothing ever came of it.

As an aside, all these options in truck tensions make me wonder how much your available kit defines your style of riding.  For example, when I started riding, I would like to bomb the local hills and so was encouraged by other local riders to insert green dampas.  Had I stuck to yellow egg shocks, would I have been more inclined to carve out of necessity or would I have excelled at bombing hills on loose trucks?  Hmm, another post for another day.

(* - Disclaimer: Other trucks exist, but I haven't ridden then, though the theory should be similar...)

Wednesday, 10 March 2010

New MBS Matrix Pro Trucks





Certainly look the business!  From the bits and pieces circulating round the 'tinternet, the following comparisons to the bogo standard matix truck can be determined:

1) Top hangers now metal instead of plastic.
2) Kingpin bushings instead of bearings.
3) Extra spring compression.
4) No inner spring location.

The repercussion of this are as follows (in my opinion!)

1) Plastic hangers tend to break.  This is okay because they are cheap to replace (~£8-9).  Question is, will an all metal truck bend in a heavy collision, and if so, what will be the cost of replacement parts?  The forum says that so far a truck has yet to bend....*
2) Sounds good to me!  At present we have a couple of bearings per truck that move a maximum of 120 degrees.  Scrapping this system should lead to a lighter, simpler truck which should be easier to maintain.  Further info on the bushings can be found here.
3) No more matrix/trampa dampa combinations! Sounds as though standard egg shocks should fit in nicely without having to screw down just to keep everything in place.  Is this a good thing?  Pfff, I don't know!  Perhaps someone cleverer than me will comment below with something on progressive turning or something...
4) ...Just like the matrix lites then.  I know that some people do ride with the spring in the inner location, but meh!

Sounds good.  Only question is are they £150 good?  (Assuming £75 is the price for each of them).   Visit ATBSports here and find out....

Alternatively, information direct from MBS can be found here.

Then it's just a matter of choosing black, silver or gold.

Edit 27 April 10:  MBS Metal top hangers will be available from ATBSports here for £15.

Wednesday, 20 January 2010

Adjusting the Turning Resistance on your MBS Channel Trucks


From an old MBS brochure that  came with my original Comp 16, a handy chart detailing how you can increase or decrease your board turning resistance.  In summary to increase turning resistance you can:
 
a) Position your springs in the outer holes
 
b) Change your egg shocks from None to Yellow to Orange to Red
 
c) Compress your springs using a suitable allen key


















PS, Don't forget the washers - crucial for preventing sudden spring decompression as the top-hat thread disengages! Just ask KMC's Simon.